Comments on: Being happy and gay: The great Indian paradox http://blog.emptyhead.in/2009/07/12/being-happy-and-gay-the-great-indian-paradox/ An empty head is where the Devil is. Sat, 31 Jul 2010 01:18:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: wise donkey http://blog.emptyhead.in/2009/07/12/being-happy-and-gay-the-great-indian-paradox/comment-page-1/#comment-1555 wise donkey Fri, 04 Dec 2009 15:43:06 +0000 http://blog.emptyhead.in/2009/07/12/being-happy-and-gay-the-great-indian-paradox/#comment-1555 well said :) adi shankara's soundaryalahiri makes doesnt reserve praises for private parts of the devi..(ramakrishna publication has a beautiful translation) but if it had been written today, we would have fundamentalists lamenting and burning the book.. i think we confuse Victorian values with Indian values..Sadly the Brits have moved on, but we haven't. well said :)
adi shankara’s soundaryalahiri makes doesnt reserve praises for private parts of the devi..(ramakrishna publication has a beautiful translation) but if it had been written today, we would have fundamentalists lamenting and burning the book..

i think we confuse Victorian values with Indian values..Sadly the Brits have moved on, but we haven’t.

]]> By: thesanelyinsane http://blog.emptyhead.in/2009/07/12/being-happy-and-gay-the-great-indian-paradox/comment-page-1/#comment-1494 thesanelyinsane Wed, 19 Aug 2009 08:27:50 +0000 http://blog.emptyhead.in/2009/07/12/being-happy-and-gay-the-great-indian-paradox/#comment-1494 for one quoting the kamasutra or khajuraho is not necessary to the argument i wud rather base the argument around the concept of morality...how do we define it? the society is an ever changing concept...language, culture, behaviors all change with times...some changes are good, some can wipe out societies (like mongolians getting drunk!!!) legislations prevent us from gambling, drinking liquor, having beef and having sex, and for that matter taking our own lives. where i stand on firm ground is that any action of ours which can affect others fundamental rights shud be regulated by legislation...some other legislations where its hard to regulate the act requires interference with our rights...like gambling for instance...since its difficult to regulate a person to not gamble beyond his means and ruin his family gambling per se is banned. But the moment one gets into this territory things get dicey... the anti-gay community may have valid points as do the pro-gay community...i guess it will be for the future generations to tell us who was right.... btw in the same light could they free up sex toys from legislation ;) for one quoting the kamasutra or khajuraho is not necessary to the argument

i wud rather base the argument around the concept of morality…how do we define it? the society is an ever changing concept…language, culture, behaviors all change with times…some changes are good, some can wipe out societies (like mongolians getting drunk!!!)

legislations prevent us from gambling, drinking liquor, having beef and having sex, and for that matter taking our own lives.

where i stand on firm ground is that any action of ours which can affect others fundamental rights shud be regulated by legislation…some other legislations where its hard to regulate the act requires interference with our rights…like gambling for instance…since its difficult to regulate a person to not gamble beyond his means and ruin his family gambling per se is banned. But the moment one gets into this territory things get dicey…

the anti-gay community may have valid points as do the pro-gay community…i guess it will be for the future generations to tell us who was right….

btw in the same light could they free up sex toys from legislation ;)

]]> By: Swami Pranavananda http://blog.emptyhead.in/2009/07/12/being-happy-and-gay-the-great-indian-paradox/comment-page-1/#comment-1482 Swami Pranavananda Mon, 13 Jul 2009 11:57:56 +0000 http://blog.emptyhead.in/2009/07/12/being-happy-and-gay-the-great-indian-paradox/#comment-1482 Thanks empty head. It is true this is a big storm in a cup of tea....When this country is assailed with sooooo many tragic, urgent, vital issues to be tackled, it borders the ridicule to see those people so vehemently reacting as though the World is going to collapse! sooo sad! Thanks empty head.
It is true this is a big storm in a cup of tea….When this country is assailed with sooooo many tragic, urgent, vital issues to be tackled, it borders the ridicule to see those people so vehemently reacting as though the World is going to collapse! sooo sad!

]]> By: The Empty Head http://blog.emptyhead.in/2009/07/12/being-happy-and-gay-the-great-indian-paradox/comment-page-1/#comment-1481 The Empty Head Mon, 13 Jul 2009 11:38:06 +0000 http://blog.emptyhead.in/2009/07/12/being-happy-and-gay-the-great-indian-paradox/#comment-1481 @swamiji: that was me asking amit to give his comments on the gay debate...so apologies on any confusion :) and the second commentator is none but the author of the blog... the empty head myself :) -the empty head @swamiji: that was me asking amit to give his comments on the gay debate…so apologies on any confusion :)

and the second commentator is none but the author of the blog… the empty head myself :)

-the empty head

]]> By: Swami Pranavananda http://blog.emptyhead.in/2009/07/12/being-happy-and-gay-the-great-indian-paradox/comment-page-1/#comment-1480 Swami Pranavananda Mon, 13 Jul 2009 11:29:28 +0000 http://blog.emptyhead.in/2009/07/12/being-happy-and-gay-the-great-indian-paradox/#comment-1480 Thank you Amit and the second commentator. Amit wants me to give my views on the Gay Debate, but may I ask you a question: - What gay debate are you referring to? As both can be merry and happy too! I am also tempted to ask you: - Day Debate? Gay Debate? What is this? I am a bit of an empty-headed guy too. Regarding the second comment, I am sure they are plenty of open-minded spiritual people in all religions including all Semitic ones and "ways of Life" as Hinduism is known to be. But, from all that we should retain the fact that to be a Gay person is only to LOVE, albeit on a different manner. Thank you Amit and the second commentator. Amit wants me to give my views on the Gay Debate, but may I ask you a question:
- What gay debate are you referring to? As both can be merry and happy too!
I am also tempted to ask you:
- Day Debate? Gay Debate? What is this? I am a bit of an empty-headed guy too.

Regarding the second comment, I am sure they are plenty of open-minded spiritual people in all religions including all Semitic ones and “ways of Life” as Hinduism is known to be. But, from all that we should retain the fact that to be a Gay person is only to LOVE, albeit on a different manner.

]]> By: amit http://blog.emptyhead.in/2009/07/12/being-happy-and-gay-the-great-indian-paradox/comment-page-1/#comment-1479 amit Mon, 13 Jul 2009 10:55:21 +0000 http://blog.emptyhead.in/2009/07/12/being-happy-and-gay-the-great-indian-paradox/#comment-1479 @Ashish: I've no opinion on the LGBT issue, as per me the whole thing is a non-issue made into a towering issue by the lawmakers. I don't look on LGBT relations favourably but thats just my personal opinion to which I'm entitled to, I don't force my opinion on any one else. If other people want to liase in such way then they should have the freedom. I recently wrote on <a href="http://hindi.amitgupta.in/2009/07/04/gender-bias-on-adultery/" rel="nofollow">LGBT & biased adultery laws in India</a>, do have a look. @Ashish:
I’ve no opinion on the LGBT issue, as per me the whole thing is a non-issue made into a towering issue by the lawmakers. I don’t look on LGBT relations favourably but thats just my personal opinion to which I’m entitled to, I don’t force my opinion on any one else. If other people want to liase in such way then they should have the freedom.

I recently wrote on LGBT & biased adultery laws in India, do have a look.

]]> By: The Empty Head http://blog.emptyhead.in/2009/07/12/being-happy-and-gay-the-great-indian-paradox/comment-page-1/#comment-1478 The Empty Head Mon, 13 Jul 2009 10:45:42 +0000 http://blog.emptyhead.in/2009/07/12/being-happy-and-gay-the-great-indian-paradox/#comment-1478 Swamiji: :) well said. I can only pray for all spiritual & religious gurus to be as open-minded as you are. Swamiji: :) well said. I can only pray for all spiritual & religious gurus to be as open-minded as you are.

]]> By: The Empty Head http://blog.emptyhead.in/2009/07/12/being-happy-and-gay-the-great-indian-paradox/comment-page-1/#comment-1477 The Empty Head Mon, 13 Jul 2009 10:23:31 +0000 http://blog.emptyhead.in/2009/07/12/being-happy-and-gay-the-great-indian-paradox/#comment-1477 amit: :) cannot agree with you more. but I would also like to hear your opinion on the gay debate. amit: :) cannot agree with you more. but I would also like to hear your opinion on the gay debate.

]]> By: Swami Pranavananda http://blog.emptyhead.in/2009/07/12/being-happy-and-gay-the-great-indian-paradox/comment-page-1/#comment-1476 Swami Pranavananda Mon, 13 Jul 2009 09:54:04 +0000 http://blog.emptyhead.in/2009/07/12/being-happy-and-gay-the-great-indian-paradox/#comment-1476 I loved your Post on "Being happy and gay: The great Indian paradox". Being a Spiritual man - I mean by "spiritual man" that I am not into rituals but rather into Awareness of my Oneness with the Ultimate - whatever the name you want to call IT - and an Advaita Vedantin, I am aware of my being One with the Multitude and Diversity within and without our body. Therefore, sexual orientations has no meaning and as such cannot be questioned and look down upon...Instead of telling us what we should do in our bedroom why don't they learn how to show compassion and Love to All? It seems that Swami Ramdev along with that hypocrite of Astrologer want us to go back to the Dark Ages... I loved your Post on “Being happy and gay: The great Indian paradox”. Being a Spiritual man - I mean by “spiritual man” that I am not into rituals but rather into Awareness of my Oneness with the Ultimate - whatever the name you want to call IT - and an Advaita Vedantin, I am aware of my being One with the Multitude and Diversity within and without our body. Therefore, sexual orientations has no meaning and as such cannot be questioned and look down upon…Instead of telling us what we should do in our bedroom why don’t they learn how to show compassion and Love to All? It seems that Swami Ramdev along with that hypocrite of Astrologer want us to go back to the Dark Ages…

]]> By: amit http://blog.emptyhead.in/2009/07/12/being-happy-and-gay-the-great-indian-paradox/comment-page-1/#comment-1474 amit Sun, 12 Jul 2009 17:09:04 +0000 http://blog.emptyhead.in/2009/07/12/being-happy-and-gay-the-great-indian-paradox/#comment-1474 Well, what a lot of uneducated literates don't know is that "gay" when put in a sentence like "being happy & gay" doesn't represent sexual orientation, it means "bright, pleasant, cheery, merry" as the word originally means in English language since its introduction from Anglo-French/high German in 14th century. And (un)surprisingly a lot of such people are those English wielding types who like to show off their education status or the fact that they are convent educated, hehehe! :D Guess that confirms my long time suspicions that these convent types have terrible knowledge of English vocabulary & grammer because they never bothered to open a dictionary, eh! ;) Well, what a lot of uneducated literates don’t know is that “gay” when put in a sentence like “being happy & gay” doesn’t represent sexual orientation, it means “bright, pleasant, cheery, merry” as the word originally means in English language since its introduction from Anglo-French/high German in 14th century.

And (un)surprisingly a lot of such people are those English wielding types who like to show off their education status or the fact that they are convent educated, hehehe! :D Guess that confirms my long time suspicions that these convent types have terrible knowledge of English vocabulary & grammer because they never bothered to open a dictionary, eh! ;)

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